Kush kerkon te largoje bustin e deshmorit te Gjuhes greke Aristotel Guma?

H προτομή του εθνομάρτυρα Αριστοτέλη Γκούμα

Procedeengs of The III Panhimarjot Conference -

http://www.himara.eu/adver/KHimariot/konferenca3_1.html

Llambro Ruci shvlefteson "argumentat" e Kristo Frasherit, Luan Malltezit, Shaban Sinanit etj

Le të thonë sa të duan Kristo Frasheri, Luan Malltezi, Shaban Sinani etj.se gjuha e parë në Himarë është shqipja dhe më pas greqishtja. E kjo është thënë qartësisht, por vendosmërisht, pa ekuivoke dhe duke e faktuar

Regjistrimi i popullsise-Presidenti Topi: presione nga qarqe ultranacionaliste

“Ndjeshmëria e madhe është sepse nga individë të qarqeve ultranacionaliste tentohet të bëhet një politikë presioni dhe deformacioni të një procesi që duhet të jetë nacional dhe ligjor” Presidenti la të kuptohej se ai ishte ishte edhe për deklarimin e lirë të etnisë dhe fesë

Ivanov: "ende në rajonin tonë qarqet ultranacionaliste veprojnë në dëm të vendeve të tjera".
(Shqip)

In contrast with 52-personality peticion, in the report of Europian Commission it is said that:

There is a lack of accurate data on minorities in Albania. This situation is expected to be addressed by the conduct of a population census in 2011, respecting international standards including the principle of free self-identification. This census will include optional questions on the ethnic origin, religious affiliation and mother tongue of respondents.

Pse nuk i jepet shtetesia shqiptare fortlumturise se tij Anastasios?

Lufta midis civilizimeve ne Shqiperi e gjen shprehjen ne luften frontale te qarqeve ateiste dhe antikrishtere qe perfaqesohen deri ne kupolen e shtetit per 20 vjet rresht dhe kontrollojne totalisht mediat.
S ipas raportimeve te ShIK-ut dhe shtypit, fondametaliste musilmane kane marre shtetesi shqiptare, kurse kryepeshkopi dekorohet nga Presidenti por ende nuk i ploteson kushtet per shtetesi megjthe qendrimin permanent prej 19 vjetesh ne Shqiperi !!!!


Saturday, January 03, 2009

The misinformation was corrected-apology of administrators

sent by stefaneli:
m. x misinform! it is not true that is claimed to have said by the chairman of omonia Bollano "not to aprove the
Association Agreement between Albania and the EU".
In your blogger

Himara - Χειμάρρα - Chimera

everybody can read the memorandum of omonia where is written that " the agreement must associate with a schedule for the implementation of the obligations concerning the Greek minority by the Albanian government
If somebody want really to help the Greek minority, should be better to take a interview from omonia chairman, m. Bollano



http://xxx.blogspot.com/
Top secret meeting of Bollanos with Greek FM in Athens


Contacts at the Foreign Ministry had these days the chairman of «Omonoias» and Mayor Himaras B. Bolanos, who "was found in the eye of the cyclone" in Albanian Opinion because of the defense the greek minority, which asked the Greek parliament not to approve the Association Agreement between Albania and the EU, if there are no commitments to resolve the politic requests of the Greek minority.



Comment από ένα άγνωστο και σηντιρητες του Bloger Himara

Ο άγνωστος: Anonymous said...

pyos ton fkyani toy blog ths xeimarras, eiparxy ena code oi pyos aneveni arthra, alios den gynaitai. Gia na aniksoyne themata ths anerksatisyas toy Borio Hpeiro kai o diokotiths toy blog na kani to koroydo stelondas minimata os "den xreazaitai oi aytonomia" eno mas arpaksan ths peroysyes sthn Xeimarra kai Lukovo, ma ton theo thamazo.
pote den tha eithala na glepo ayto to blog, an o dioktiths den tha kalesy "signomy".
kastros ths Xeimarras


Σημείωση από το Bloger Himara: Συνήθως όλα τα άρθρα και ειδήσεις που προβάλλονται στο Bloger Himara έχουν υπογραφή και πηγή από που πάρθηκαν και δεν είναι ποτέ άγνωστες αυτές οι πηγές. Μερικές φορές κάποιοι στέλνουν μηνύματα στη διεύθυνση μας (akroqeravnos@yahoo.gr) οπος ο κ. Στεφανέλης που ζητάνε να μι προβαλεται το e-mail τους. Εφόσον το μήνυμα που στέλνουν δεν έχει προσβολές για κανένα, έχει τεκμηρίωση και έχει ενδιαφέρον για το κόσμο, εμείς το προβάλουμε ος άρθρο.

Έτσι έγινε και με το μήνυμα του κ. Στεφανέλη. Έξαλλου οποιοσδήποτε θα μπορούσε να έχει ένα e-mail και να παραμένει άγνωστο. Πιστεύουμε ότι έχετε προσέξει ότι τα comments είναι free επειδή δεν μας ενδιαφέρει ποιοι γράφουν, αλά τι σκέφτονται, οπός π.χ. οι σκέψεις του αγνώστου παραπονεμένο.

Θέλουμε να τονίζουμε επίσης ότι την βρίσκουμε γελοία την απειλή του παραπονεμένου αγνώστου ότι “ δε θα διαβάζει αυτό το Bloger εάν δεν ζητήσουμε συγνώμη...”

Το Bloger μας δεν δουλεύει με συνδρομητές ούτε είναι εκφραστής κάποιου κόμματος η οργανώσεως. Είναι άπλα μια εθελοντική πρωτοβουλία για ενημέρωση για γεγονότα περί της Χειμαρρας, της πολιτιστικής κληρονομίας της, των περιουσιών τις κλτ και όχι να υποστήριξη (η να πολεμάει) κάποια άποψη οπός αυτή της αυτονομίας της Βορίου Ηπείρου.

Εάν κάποιοι στα comments τους υποστηρίζουν μια άποψη και κάποιοι άλλοι την αντίθετη, δεν βλέπουμε τον λόγο να εμποδίζουμε την μια η την άλλη πλευρά να εκφράζονται. Δημοκρατία σημαίνει ελεύθερη κίνηση ιδεών.

Καλούμε τον άγνωστο παραπονεμένο (δεν νομίζω να έχει πάλι παράπονο που το καλούμε έτσι-αφού δεν μας έδωσε άλλα στοιχεία) να μας προβάλει τις ιδέες του για το θέμα που τον «πόνεσε»

Ευχαριστούμε για την κατανόηση

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17 comments:

Anonymous said...

AFTI EINE I AKSIA K. STEFANELI. STO BLOG TOU K. MARKOY DEN FENETE NA RINI BENZINI STIN FOTIA. I ENIMEROSI EINE APO TO ETHNOS, SINTOMA ANALISY, KAI DEN EINE MONO OI OMONIA POY TO LEGI AFTO, ALA OLI OI VORIO EPIRIOTES APO AMERIKI, EVROPI, ELADA, HIMARIOTES KAI PANTOU. STO AFTO TO BLOG POU KATHE XIMARIOTIS EXI DIKIOMA NA GRAFI GIA TA DIKOMATA KAI PEROUSIES POY KATAPATOUNE STIN ALVANIA, DEN GLEPO ALI AKRI APO DROPOULITES I OPIA PANE EKATOMIRIA APO DROPOULI STA TIRANA NA PAROUNE KATHE KAREKLA APO TO KOMA SINERGASIA ME TON BERISA, ENO TON DIMARXO TIS XEIMARRAS TON APALUNE MALISTA KAI TON SDIMOZIOGRAFO MARKOU. NA EXIS ENA KOMPUTER EKTOS APO EKTOS KIKLOMA KAI NA GRAFIS OTI THELIS DEN EINE SOSTO. OPIOS FOVATE APO TON ELEFTERO TIPO KAI DEN LEGI TIN AKSIA POY KATAPATANE TA DIKIOMATA TOU ANTHROPIOTITAS TOTE KAPOU ALU PREPI NA GRAFI. TO BLOG TOU K. MARKOU ENIMERONI OPOS GLEPO GIA POLUS VORIO EPIRIOTES STO KOZMO MEXRI STO STATE DEPARTAMENT GIA KATHE LEPTOMERIA POY SIMVENI SKESES ELADA ALVANIA, EINE ENA FOS STO MEGALO TUNEL TI SIMVENI MESA STIN PATRIDA MAS, KAI PISTEVO OTI I KINONIA MAS PERNI APO AFTO TO BLOG XRISIMES PLIROFORIES GIA ANALITES KAI POLITIKES SKESIS STA BALKANIA.

Anonymous said...

nuk me duket se stefaneli se paku lexon mire anglisht, stavro e ka thene ndryshe lajmin ashtu sic e thote edhe omonia ne mos gaboj:

Contacts at the Foreign Ministry had these days the chairman of «Omonoias» and Mayor Himaras B. Bolanos, who "was found in the eye of the cyclone" in Albanian Opinion because of the defense the greek minority, which asked the Greek parliament to approve conditioned the Association Agreement between Albania and the EU, if there are no commitments to resolve the politic requests of the Greek minority. Nonda
www.smarkos.blogspot.com

Anonymous said...

Materiali paraqitur ne bloger "himara chimera-" i shkeputur dje nga blogeri i s. Marko eshte i ndryshem nga ai qe na paraqitet sot ne blogerin e z. Marko dhe me formulimin e ri ka perputhje me tekstin e Omonias qe po e jap edhe ne greqisht (να μην φέρει προς ψήφιση το σχέδιο νόμου, όχι τουλάχιστον προτού υπάρξουν σαφείς και χρονικά οριοθετημένες δεσμεύσεις από την πλευρά της Αλβανίας, με διμερή διακρατική συμφωνία)
Pra mos te me akuzoje mua se nuk kuptoj mire anglisht por te theksoje ndryshimin qe beri ne tekst. Ashtu sic ishte shkruar dukej ne perputhje me akuzat qe i behen Bollanos nga kompania e xhufit dhe Njeles me shoke te cilet keqinterpretojne kerkesat e omonias sipas oreksit te tyre te shfrenuar nacionalist.
Tora imaste endaksi k. Marko

kali xronia
o Stefanelis

himara said...

I suggest to remove the information and the notes, now the comment of S. Marko is ok.

Anonymous said...

Stefanel mos je gje nga ata trimat e Neranxit ti qe tha ne parlament nje jave me pare "celula extremiste ka ne Tirane Himare dhe Athine" ti me ke je zotrote se spo te marim vesh, me ata qe populli shqiptar te gjykoje vepren e himarioteve qe rembejne tokat dhe nuk i lene te flasin nje fjale ne greqisht apo dicka tjeter. Zotnia qe ti permend del perkrah me kryeministrin e greqise ndersa zotrote kerkon te sulmosh inteligjencen himariote se nje teme te tille na i hape edhe me problemion e Kakomese. Ore me ke je ta marim vesh, je me Kakomene dhe Himaren apo me PBDNJ qe nuk u duk fare dhe stha asnje fjale per qendresen heroike te pleqve dhe plakave ketu.

N Baxhaqi Nivitsa

Anonymous said...

Te kemi kujdes ne polemika brenda familjes. Z. Marko jo vetem kaq, eshte expert i Fondacionit te NATO ne Tirane per sigurine rajonale edhe bashkepunetor i Institutit per kerkime europiane dhe amerikane http://www.rieas.gr/ ne athine.

Me kaq sa ai paraqet ne blogun e tij bile krah perkrah me Karamanlis eshte krenari per cdo himariot.
Z. Stefanelis, bloget per debate miqesi dhe informacione jane, nuk perbejne opinion te drejteperdrejte pasi elektronike jane hiq edhe vi, por me kryesorja eshte se duhen shmangur debate te tilla pa vlere, per te mos me keqkuptuar te maresh e te besh avokatin e omonias, kur ajo ka edhe faqen e saj edhe mos gaboj gazete me duket pa vend. Hallin se pari ne e kemi tek tokat per te cilen lukunia jane versulur nga te kater anet ne Himare dhe Lukove dhe jo diku tjeter. kalona nje teme tjater me te ngrohte.
Gogua nga Durresi

Anonymous said...

Stefua ben dhe prokurorin dhe hetuesin, pse ore kaq frike ke te thuash per vorio epirin kur ka edhe labe qe e duan jo me omonia....
Selam Musai

Anonymous said...

Περί παραπληροφόρησης
Με αφορμή ένα post στο Himarablog με τίτλο
''Why this misinformation by S.Marko'',
θα ήθελα να πω τα εξής .
Ο κ. Σ. Μάρκος έχει ονοματεπώνυμο και φέρνει την ευθύνη των γραφόμενων του.
Ο κ. stefaneli που τον κατηγορεί για παραπληροφόρηση ποιός είναι;
http://chaonia.blogspot.com/
Αν κατάλαβα καλά πρέπει να είναι εκπρόσωπος τύπου του Βασίλη Μπολάνου γιατί αλλιώς δεν θα προσκαλούσε τον κ.Μάρκο να πάρει συνέντευξη από τον πρόεδρο της ''Ομόνοιας''.
Αν πάλι είναι εκπρόσωπος τύπου δεν μπορεί να αρθρογραφεί με ψευδώνυμο σε blog.
Η ''Ομόνοια'' δόξα τω Θεώ έχει εφημερίδα , ιστοσελίδα και αν νομίζει πως θίγεται ή υπάρχει σκόπιμη παραπληροφόρηση από κάποιους δημοσιογράφους μπορεί να το καταγγείλει ή απλά να βγάλει ένα δελτίο τύπου όπου θα διευκρινίζει τα σημεία του υπομνήματος που
διαστρεβλώθηκαν σκοπίμως. Στην κατηγορία πάντως αυτών που ''παραπληροφόρησαν'' δεν είναι μόνο ο κ.Μάρκος είναι το Zougla.gr , ο Πρωϊνός Λόγος, το Έθνος και πολλές άλλες ηλεκτρονικές και έντυπες εφημερίδες στην Ελλάδα.
Αναρτήθηκε από chaon στις 1:47 μμ 0 σχόλια

Anonymous said...

STEFANEL VORIO EPIRIN E DO DHE VETE MIKU YT BERISHA, E LEXOVE PARVJET SE CTHOSHTE NE GAZETEN GREKE "TO VIMA"? HAJDE LEVENDI HAJDE. ZITO VORIO EPIRIN

Anonymous said...

What Stefanelis Thinks for Epirotic Federation of USA about the resolution of 2008:

http://www.panepirotic.org/html/resolutions.html

We call on the Greek Parliament to adopt a resolution that it will not approve Albania’s membership in the European Union unless it first grants all rights to the ethnic Greek Minority in the country starting with an accurate measure of its members.

We want to ask Stefaneli: do you agree with this?
socrates

Anonymous said...

Agapitoi filoi, opioi kai na iste, ego to ksekathariza me ta dyo minimata moy to skeptiko moy: ipirxe parapliroforisi sto bloger toy Marko (opos fenete oxi skopimo) Ayto poy paratiririsa ego itan oti o k. marko to ixe diorthosi ara to thema eklise.
Tora bgenoyn kapoi kai prospathoyne na kanoyn to dhikigoro toy k. Marko kai kanoyn kritiki se mena oti O dhithen kano to dikigoro tis omonias. Zhaba xrono.
Gia na ksekatharizo ti thesi moy prosopika theoro oti kathe parapiisi toy kimenoy tis omoias kai 10 silogon borioipiroton sthn Eladha apotelei aformi gia ethnikistes epitheseis apo ekstremistes kikloi. Apo oso ksero ego oyte i Omonia kai kanena sillogo boriohpiroton (ara kai o sillogos tis himaras) dhen exei sto programa aytonomia Borio-Hpiroy.Opote ofilei kathe melos kai filos tis omonias na katangjilei tetoies parapliroforisis. Ean kapia efimeridha opos to ethnos i poy ksero ego grafei etsi, dhen prosferei tipota ston agona gia anthropina dikaiomata poy zitame.
Kai o kirios apo ti nivitsa milaei sto bronto. Xoris na exo alo parapono gia to k. Marko (edho klino kathe antilogo meayton) tonizo oti oyte mia fotografia me to Bush i me to Karamanli dhen to kanei katanagji to k. Marko ekfrasti toy elenismoy tis Albanias.
O kirios Chaonia tha eprepe na mathenei na dhiavazei tin yosia toy minimatos kai meta na grafei blakies ta opoia mporei na ta grafei kai sto bloger toy.
Xereto aytoys poy engrinoyn h katakrinoyn tin apopsi moy. H dhimokratia etsi einai

O Stefanelis

Anonymous said...

Mr Stefaneli as you can see
we cannot spot the difference between the truth and the lie.

Mr Markos has been publishing some stories from his point of view...
As someone wrights above, my kitchen, my salt, my pepper!

The reporter from Ethnos newspaper had made a republishing of the albanian press and nothing more.

The same reporter had written some fiction stories in the past about us and our future.

As per the defense from himself and other patriotes here well that's normal.

Anonymous said...

The previous note is quite correct.
Best regards
Stefanelis

Anonymous said...

o Stefanelis grafi...

"Apo oso ksero ego oyte i Omonia kai kanena sillogo boriohpiroton (ara kai o sillogos tis himaras) dhen exei sto programa aytonomia Borio-Hpiroy".

Mi pos k. Stefaneli to Borio Hpiroy tha pari adia apo esena distixos na vgalis to xeri an theloume oi oxi tin aytonomia tou Borea Hpiroy, malista oute den exi programa gia aytonomia? tora ta exises. Monis i Omonia apofasisei na mi psifizi gia alvanikes eklogies, esena tha safisoume eksprosopo tou Xabit Broka kai to Neratzi.

mavre fige apo ton xoron ton xemarrioton.

Anonymous said...

Oi eksipnadhes toy proigoumenoy dhen exoyn tellos... Kanenas dhen empodhizei na pei kai zitai oti thelei, kai oyte ypoxreono kanena na skeftete opos ego.
Apla, ego perigrafo os einai tora i katastasi kai ta gegonota. H Omonia kai alloi silogoi enai dimokratika eklegmenes kai tipika kathe boriohpirotis ypotithete oti mporei na symbalei sta melontika sxedia ton organosevn ayton.
Mexri ti stigmi omos dhen yparxei kamia eklegmenoi organosi tvn borio-epiroton na exei diaforopoiisi thn stasi apo tis organoseis poy anefera(dhen ksero an mu lipei kapoia pliroforia-as moy to poyne). Kai malista oyte o panepirotikos sylogos tis amerikis dhen exei zitisei aytonomia borio-hpiroy.
Gia aytonomia bori-hpiroy tora mporei na milisoyn memonomena atoma opos o sevastos syn-omilitis moy poy dhen prosferoyn tipota gia afto poy nomizoyn oti ypostirizoyn ean dhen organontai se ena politiko kinima.
Episeis prosopika dhen exo pari thesi pro i kontra mia tetoiioy kinimatos poy pros ti stigmi inai aniparkto (panta me oso ksero ego kai efxaristi tha itan kathe alli pliroforia).
Mu fenete kapoi exoyn xasi tin busulla kai anti na pianontai me akro-ethnikistes alvanoys opos o Xhufi, O Ngjela kai o "dikomas" Neranxis (poy prosopika to theoro tixodhioktis ) kai aloys, ksodhevoyn energia gia alithies poy pikrenoyn. Dhivaste sto shekulli (simerini mera) gia na katalavenete poi einai aytoi poy tha eprepe na ginoyn antikimeno sizitiseon

xeretismoys
O stefanelis

Anonymous said...

pyos ton fkyani toy blog ths xeimarras, eiparxy ena code oi pyos aneveni arthra, alios den gynaitai. Gia na aniksoyne themata ths anerksatisyas toy Borio Hpeiro kai o diokotiths toy blog na kani to koroydo stelondas minimata os "den xreazaitai oi aytonomia" eno mas arpaksan ths peroysyes sthn Xeimarra kai Lukovo, ma ton theo thamazo.
pote den tha eithala na glepo ayto to blog, an o dioktiths den tha kalesy "signomy".
kastros ths Xeimarras

akroqeravnos said...

Sinithos ola ta arthra kai idisis poy provalontai sto bloger paroysiazontai taytoxrona kai me tin pigi apo poy irthan kai dhen einai pote angnostes aytes oi piges. Merikes fores kapoi stelnoyn minimata sti dieythinsi mas (akroqeravnos@yahoo.gr) kai otan to zitane na mi emfanistoyn ta e-mail toy, emeis sevomaste tin epithimia toy kai efoson to minima dhen prosvalei kai exei tekmiriosi.

Etsi egine kai me to k. stefaneli. Eksaloy opiosdhipote tha mporoyse nga exei ena e-mail kai na paramenei agnostos. Edho sta comments toy bloger Himara endiaferomaste gia tis idees kai oxi gia onomata (pistevoyme oti exete proseksi oti ta coments einai free kai den mas endiaferoyn poi grafoun, opos kai o agnostotos paraponemenos)

Theloyme na tonisoyme episeis oti tin briskoyme gelia tin apili toy paraponemenoy oti " dhe tha dhiavazei ton bloger ean dhen zitisoyme signomi".
To bloger dhen dhoylevei me sindromites,oyte einai ekfrastis kapioy komatos i organoseis. Einai apla mia ethelontiki protoboylia gia na enimerosei toys ximareoys kai osi alloi endiaferontai gia gegonota peri tis Himaras, tis politistikis klironomias ti , tvn perioysion tis Xeimaras kai oxi na ypostiriksi (i polemaei) kapoia apopsi opos ayti sxetika me tin borio-hpiro. Ean kapioi sta comments toy ipostirizoyn mia apopsi kai kapoi aloi tin antitheti, dhen blepyme ton logo na empodhizoyme tin mia i tin ali peyra na ekfrazontai. Dhimokratia simenei eleytherei kinisi ideon.
Kaloyme ton agnosto paraponemeno na mas grafei ena arthro gia na ekfrazei opos blepei aytos to thema
poy ton " ponese"

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